Waking sleeping scenario

Hey there, this is Andy the head trainer of Able training support limited. So, I’m on the road at the moment, I’m sitting in a hotel at the minute Far, far away from my normal hometown in the south of the country. And I’m just working with a customer now, it raised a bit of an issue that I’ve come across it a few different places. So, I thought I’d just discuss it with the social media world and, and hopefully get some feedback in your opinions, that’d be wonderful.

So, I’ve got a customer that do some training for we’re doing challenge behaviour and restraint training and breakaway training. So, this is a supportive living setting, they’ve got one particular client who is actually on a four to one ratio, which you’ll see a particularly complex and an unpredictable individual is probably the best way that I did describe this, this gentleman by the sounds of what the staff are saying, now I don’t have all the information related to his care plans and risk assessments and things like that.

One of the interesting things that I found was that as like, as certain I’ve come across a few different times, so he’s on a four to one ratio. But at night, he’s on a one waking one sleeping, which I get at night, if he is sleeping, then that’s fine. It’s lower risk. But the waking and sleeping scenario, for me means that then, technically, the waking is low working, but this guy doesn’t go to bed until the early hours in the morning. So, a lot of the time. So, he just gets up and he goes to the loo. He sometimes wants a drink, or he sometimes wants a snack and things like that. The Strokes, this goes on a four to one ratio during the day. But then he’s only on a two to one ratio, what is a one-to-one ratio, it’s a night. So, I said, so I take it the waking stays up until he’s gone to bed but isn’t a case it’s the waking, sorry, the sleeping goes to bed. Waking stays up all night. So, I said What is it then if he wants to drink and as loud you get then the waking up? I said well, no. So, this is something I concern because I feel risk assessment wise. And they’d have, they’d already had a major scenario, where unfortunately, a single member of staff who was on night, who was the waking, got corded in the kitchen seriously assaulted, and then had to be off work for a significant amount of time. And yet they still got this situation where they’ve got one waking and one sleeping. Now I personally feel that that isn’t fulfilling a decent risk assessment criterion, I would say that if something was to happen to that member of staff, then that organisation could be dragged over the coals for that particular action.

They said about previously they’ve had situations with walkie talkies, and things that aren’t being able to call the waking, call sleeping to study or how you do call for assistance. And they basically said, well just wish out. So, a lot of concerns. And this is one of the things I’ve come across a few times with the lone working in certain care settings, whether it be a sleeping and waking Well, if it’s a two to one ratio at night, then any time that gentlemen is up and about then it should be on a two to one. If he’s asleep, then okay, you might have sleeping/waking that should be part of the risk assessment. But for somebody who’s on a four to one ratio during the day seems very strange to me. But number of places on wall. Okay, so you’ve got one sleeping, no waking. So, what is their policy as far as if anything happens? So, if they’ve got multiple clients, for instance, they’ve got four clients, but it’s one sleeping member of staff. So therefore, if something happens at night, what’s their policy limit stay in their room and call for additional support? Are they meant to go out and deal with it, which means they’re now alone working? So, what protocols and policies are in place to ensure their safety?

I think one of the things that a lot of residential settings, especially as supported housing, the sleeping staff are sometimes not perceived to be lone working or at night, they’re not perceived to be lone workers at that point. And I pretty much guarantee there is no policy, or no lone worker risk assessment is done on their behalf. And then they say so what if something happened in a few places? What if something happened to you, at nine o’clock at night? Who would be the next person who then found out about it? And for some of the places I’ve been to say, well, basically, unless a resident raises the alarm, one of the services has raised the alarm. It’d be when our staff member turns up in the morning, which is our many hours later. It’s just something really concerns me. I’ve come across it quite a lot within certain settings. Yeah, interesting to hear any points of view you guys have out there. For me. I think it’s dangerous.