June 16, 2026 min
49 min
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What makes a children’s home truly therapeutic? Is it specialist interventions, clinical models, or something much simpler?
In this episode of the Able to Care Podcast, Andy Baker is joined by children’s home owner and entrepreneur Carmel Saulbrey. Together, they explore how kindness, connection, emotional regulation, and understanding behaviour as communication can transform outcomes for children living in care.
Drawing on her journey from business owner to children’s home provider, Carmel shares the realities of leading therapeutic homes, supporting staff through emotionally demanding situations, and creating environments where both children and adults can feel safe, valued, and understood.
Carmel shares powerful insights into the emotional weight carried by support workers and youth mentors. Every interaction matters, and a seemingly small conversation can have a significant impact on a child who has experienced trauma, loss, rejection, or instability.
The discussion explores why many caring professionals struggle with self-doubt, emotional exhaustion, and the pressure of getting things right, while highlighting the importance of compassion for both children and staff.
One of the most innovative parts of this conversation is Carmel’s introduction of The Kindness Code, an AI-powered training platform designed to help residential care staff practise real-life scenarios before they encounter them in the workplace.
From responding to disclosures and emotional dysregulation to handling difficult conversations, the platform allows staff to develop confidence, empathy, and therapeutic communication skills in a safe environment.
Rather than replacing training, The Kindness Code aims to reinforce and embed learning, helping support workers turn knowledge into practical skills they can use every day.
A recurring theme throughout the episode is the connection between staff wellbeing and children’s wellbeing.
Andy and Carmel discuss how creating supportive workplace cultures, encouraging reflection, and recognising the emotional demands of caregiving can improve retention, reduce burnout, and ultimately create more stable and nurturing environments for young people.
This episode is a reminder that therapeutic care is not about perfection. It’s about showing up consistently, remaining curious, learning from mistakes, and creating relationships built on trust, connection, and compassion.
Whether you’re supporting children in care, leading a team, or raising your own family, this conversation offers valuable insights into how kindness can become a powerful professional skill rather than simply a personal trait.