June 2, 2026 min
59 min
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In this episode of the Able to Care Podcast, Andy Baker speaks with Dr Lisa Cherry about belonging, trauma, school exclusion and the experiences of children and adults who have felt pushed out, moved around or misunderstood.
Lisa shares powerful insights from her research into care-experienced adults who were also excluded from school, exploring how movement, rejection, instability and unbelonging can shape behaviour, identity and emotional safety.
This conversation challenges us to look beneath behaviour and ask better questions. Instead of simply asking, “How do we stop this behaviour?”, Lisa encourages us to consider whether the person feels safe, accepted and significant.
For children who have experienced trauma, school exclusion, care moves or relational loss, belonging is not a soft extra. It can be the foundation for trust, learning, emotional regulation and behaviour support.
At its heart, this episode is a reminder that people do not just need to be managed. They need to know they matter.
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